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Re-evaluating the Fijian Chiefly system

April 30, 2009

It is an accepted fact; that no culture in the world remains stagnate, but constantly undergoes changes and at times turbulent transformations. The Fijian chiefly system is no exemption. Roko Tui Bau has previously warned hereditary chiefs in Fiji they can no longer sit back on their laurels and rely on their birth right alone, but need to work hard, prove themselves and earn the respect of their people.

This fact is much more apparent today when ordinary Fijians are returning to Fiji with Bachelor, Masters and Doctorate degrees and have so much more impact, wealth and influence than their own hereditary chiefs, who at times view them with deep suspicion because they feel threatened.

Chiefly disputes are becoming quite common today especially when lease monies are attached to titles; however the basis of adjucation as to who is the rightful owner of the title is from out dated records stored with the Native Lands Commission, which is frozen in perpetuity, whist Fijian culture has undergone so much transformations, making the NLC Records (Tukutuku Raraba) virtually obsolete and irrelevant.

The issue of freeing up more native lands for development is something very dear to native Fijians and shrouded in mystic, but this needs to be re-evaluated and our presumptions tested to see whether they are relevant and addressing the needs of modern Fijians today.

The hereditary chiefly system should be re-evaluated as well to allow qualified ordinary Fijians into traditional positions of authority as well, something akin to the House of Lords in the UK. The chiefly system should be reviewed with conditions imposed by law making hereditary chief unfit to hold office if they cannot fulfil this condition/s causing the title to pass onto the next most suited candidate or their title be stripped from them because of some disqualifying act.

For instance, conditions making a hereditary chief unfit to hold a title would be but not limited to; bankruptcy; previous criminal convictions, mental instability, brings disrepute to the title, country, trouble maker, etc. People who cannot pass these conditions should be deemed not worthy to hold and/or retain hereditary positions in Fiji.

For instance, in my recent articles, I have reverted to calling President Josefa Iloilo, Minister Epeli Nailatikau, Minister Epeli Ganilau and Colonel Ului Mara without using their hereditary ‘Ratu’ titles because in my opinion, they are unworthy and have forfeited their right to any hereditary chiefly position in Fiji.

My opinion is based on their committing treason against the lawful Qarase Government through their greediness, selfishness and hunger for power, which has brought about this great calamity, lawlessness, human rights abuses, poverty, unemployment, etc on the innocent peoples of Fiji.

The chiefly hereditary system in Fiji, if it is to remain relevant, the cornerstone and the beacon of hope for the ordinary Fijian peoples in the future, then it must be transformed and ensure only good, upright, moral and worthy leaders are eligible for these hereditary chiefly titles and if there is none available, then they should elect someone else who commands the most respect.

Too radical you say……….I don’t think so because we cannot continue living in the past and repeating the same mistakes in the future!

Tui Savu.
President.
Solivakasama Worldwide Movement.

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54 Comments leave one →
  1. April 30, 2009 10:51 PM

    Tui Cakau has a masters degree from Clark University in the US.
    More of the chiefs should show motivation to stay on top of the educational and professional ladder if they want to maintain their positions.

  2. Keep The Faith permalink
    April 30, 2009 11:28 PM

    I agree to some extent Tui Savu.

    At this juncture the temperature is perhaps right to re-evaluate our chiefly system.

    But I don’t think the traditional/chiefly system is flawed.

    There is a role for traditional governance in the rural sectors — it is what make’s the rural systems tick.

    What does need to change is the mindset of the individuals who think that by the virtue of their traditional roles, they automatically have a place in modern governance eg GCC and appointment of titular President (now we see what a totally bad idea that is).

    To my mind it’s one or the other. Individuals wanting to maximize on the opportunity for both are the problem — thus the often degrading “Great Council of Thieves” tag that we hear every so often.

    Traditional leaders are born (and have the correlating OBLIGATIONS to their people often thought of as EXTENSIVE PRIVILEGES), while modern leaders have to fight for (via votes and trust with your electorates — also not without its share or correlating obligations to constituents who put them there).

    Once traditional leaders forget about their traditional roles in the hope that they can excel in modern governance (bcus they may automatically have a constituency), they flounder because the new constituents they now have want and demand better because they PAY FOR IT.

    In saying this I’m not supporting electoral reforms NOW — I’m saying elect new leaders and let them with, WE THE PEOPLE, institute these changes transparently and holistically.

    Such a process must happen in their time and according to what they accept is the ideal approach.

    What Bainimarama is trying to do is force HIS changes through and that is simply asking for trouble.

  3. Mark Manning permalink
    May 1, 2009 12:28 AM

    Bula all,
    Frank has asked for dialogue with Kevin Rudd according to Channel ( Newsroom this morning !

    Feudal System :-
    http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=feudal+system&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=lBr6SaygCo2NkAWIw_WDBQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title

    http://www.mce.k12tn.net/middleages/feudalsystem.htm

    Even my birth country had to change it’s way of governing by handing power to the people in the way of forming a Parliament of the people .
    Frank seems to be attempting to take Fiji into the opposite direction !
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_the_United_Kingdom

    It’s great to hear , finally , someone acknowledging the need for change , but how do you ensure that the current system won’t be replaced by an equally inadequate and flawed one ?
    And who will make the decision on which system is best ?

    As an outsider , I think it’s time to scrap the Chiefly system entirely and suggest that it simply only have a role similar to the English Monarchy in so far as it’s influence goes in modern Fiji Politics .

    Done properly , the cultural aspect of Fijians could be maintained as a great money spinner like the Royal Family in England which brings in about 5,000,000,000 ( 5 billion pounds ) each year through tourism .

    Now that has to assure their survival .

    The current crisis has proved the ineffectiveness of the current chiefly system .

    But one crucial point seem , as always , to have been avoided here yet again !
    How do Fijians justify the non-indigenous population having no land ownership or are they to be considered the peasants of Fiji and if so , isn’t that discriminatory and contray to International covenants , agreements and Law ?

    Tui , what are your thoughts on this , in perhaps both a legal and personal sense ?

  4. Mark Manning permalink
    May 1, 2009 12:42 AM

    The Regime is starting to crumble now , thanks to International pressure and a show of support by Fijians in the way of the E-Petitions .
    So tell everyone you know to send the U.N. E-Petition to Helen Clark and let’s finish off this wounded PIG ! :-
    http://www.solivakasama.org/

    As I said , there was a report on the channel Nine News in Sydney this morning , stating that Frank was seeking dialogue with Kevin Rudd , but i feel it’s too late and that Kevin Rudd won’t fall for Frank’s empty promises anyway.

    So don’t sit there and drink a bowl of Kava under the mango tree , get up off your butt and take your friends with you to send off the New U.N. E-Petition because now is the time to keep the momentum going and the pressure on Frank and Co.

    It’s all about keeping the Chinese and Indian Governments out of the Pacific Region !

    It’s so totally up to you Fijians now , the rest of us can only help so much !

  5. Solo permalink
    May 1, 2009 1:21 AM

    Thanks Mr Tui Savu for the explanation.

    Words from Fiji’s MOST respected chief who should be Fiji’s rightful Vice President.

    “In headlong rush for modernity, we have been far too eager to embrace foreign constructs in preference to our own. It is only when the reality of the foreign has not matched the promise, that some of us have begun to take stock and revisit the reservoirs of knowledge and practice that are our heritage” Speeches of Ratu Joni Madraiwiwi.

    If you have “taukei” blood running through your veins you should be ashamed, hurt and angry that a man of Ratu Joni’s calibre, a Bauan chief is been replaced by another Bauan chief but one that has supported an act of treason and not the intellect to be the country’s VP. Like Mr Savu he doesn’t have my respect so no “Ratu” from me, Naiulukau is more appropriate!

    This is a start, we must all realize and feel this if we are to retain our chiefly system in our land.

    Our chiefly system is our heritage and if taken away from us we are lost, however, I agree that changes need to be made so that it fits into modern society.

  6. Mark Manning permalink
    May 1, 2009 1:43 AM

    Change for change sake is futile !
    But to change to something more appropriate and more beneficial to all , seems to be the right motivation .
    It is a matter for Fijian society to decide .

  7. Ropate permalink
    May 1, 2009 2:02 AM

    You’re a bit off the mark, Tui. Chiefs are part of Fijian culture and to remove them is to remove an important part of Fijian culture. Fijians need their culture. It defines their world view and defines themselves. The late and much loved Queen Salote of Tonga once said a Pacific Islander without his(her) culture is like a turtle without a shell.
    Its only you Lauan guys who treat the Tui Nayau like a God. The rest of Fiji effectively think of their chiefs only for ceremonial purposes.
    The problem when the functions of chiefs and the state become entwined. That’s when the problem arises. There used to be a saying up at the army camp in Nabua. If you are a chief, leave yr title outside the main gate before u march in. Today, sadly, that rule is ignored. If that rule were to apply to the state and all its institutions there would be no problem about chiefs

  8. Ropate permalink
    May 1, 2009 2:03 AM

    The problem is when the functions of chiefs and the state become entwined . . .

  9. Mark Manning permalink
    May 1, 2009 2:19 AM

    The point is , when there are vested interests , people will gravitate to a system that protects their own interests at the expense of others .
    Maybe you guys should be looking at what has worked well and what hasn’t worked and then modify , adjust , change or even scrap that which is no longer a viable option.
    I said to a Fijian friend in 1987 that you can’t intertwine 2 political systems and then also be represented in Parliament by religious clerics and the like and Fijians need to determine , are they going to be ruled under the Westminster or some other modern day system of Government or by the old Chiefly system .
    I suggest that the chiefly system is not appropriate for modern day Fiji .
    Another issue you all seem to have conveniently side stepped yet again , even though it’s possibly at the root of Fiji’s political woes or at least is being used as an excuse to circumvent the law of the land and it’s constitution , is the land ownership which 50% of the Fijian population are not entitled to .
    I still say , until you guys resolve that amongst the citizens of Fiji , there won’t be long term progress and prosperity , except for a handful of you !

    Call me crazy if I’m wrong !

  10. Mark Manning permalink
    May 1, 2009 2:33 AM

    Frank’s call for dialogue with Kevin Rudd :-
    http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/fiji-calls-urgent-meeting-key-rudd-2692977

  11. May 1, 2009 2:37 AM

    @ Ropate,

    I don’t hink Tui is advocating the abolition of the Fijian chiefly system, but rather its improvement or transformation.

    I support the concept we don’t follow an institution for the institution’s sake, otherwise we become enslaved to a system, but rather the institution should serve us to become better people.

    Therefore the Fijian chiefly system maybe the cornerstone of Fijian culture, but if it being abused by unworthy chiefs, whould you still follow them blindly withour question? I would not!

    I thnik that is Tui’s argument or at least how I interpret his article. If I am wrong, then I ask Tui to correct me and clarify his intention.

  12. May 1, 2009 3:54 AM

    HI, MARK MANNING
    Dude, man what can I say, I’ve been reading all your political comments and watching your piece(Youtube clips) for the last few days, boy I was so mersmirised and amazed by your artwork and creative geniuse. I’m sure Piccaso will be nodding from his grave too. Come to think of it, maybe you should start a movement right in your own backyard (Australia), you could name it, Movement to Liberate Aboriginal Enslavement & Human Rights for Refugees. This is what I think you should stipulate in the movements declaration
    * Royal Commision to investigate the Indigenous death in custody
    * Stop government intervention in Aboriginal territories
    * Stop the cruelty and detention of women and children in immigration detention centers
    * Pressure the federal government to approve skilled workers migration skilled to the unemployed youth of the Pacific Island, including Fiji
    Mate, this are just some of the ideas that I think that a man of your intellect and passion for human rights should seriously embrace. I’m sure that would surely shake some feathers down in Canberra. Personally, I empathised with my fellow countrymen, and what they are facing under the military regime, and I’m hopping for a quik return back to democracy.Let us Fijians sort out our problems, the way we know best. The last thing we need right now, is to have a white trash like you to tell us what to do. Good on u mate, “OSSIE OSSIE OSSIE, OI OI OI”

  13. IslandBoy permalink
    May 1, 2009 4:14 AM

    @Tui Savu – Bula Vinaka Ratu Tau! At the risk of sounding sycophnatic, what about those of us who are loyal and faithful supporters of our paramount chief.

    In our case, we firmly believe the Gone Marama Bale Roko Tui Dreketi has been faultless and unwavering in her position and has guided our province in its very firm moral stand against the interim regime.

    For many of us from the impoverished delta, she has very succesfully combined her traditional leadership role with her perpsective of modern day democratic governance and has mapped out a course for our ship to sail. We are very proud of the public stance she has taken and fully support her and the position she so ably represents, with grace and dignity.

    I for one would not want to change a single variable regarding her leadership and praise and thank God every day for her life. Sa dri yani.

  14. Hosannah permalink
    May 1, 2009 4:22 AM

    Actually Ropate, the late Tui Nayau as seen in the Tale of 2 Fijians…..cant remember exact movie title now, is a far cry from the human and personal worship the LAuans bestowed on the late President ……….. so much so his children treat it blasphemous if Fiji people so much say a -ve word against him no matter if factually true.

    Long live the chiefly system. It is God ordained!! We just have to ask Gods help how to strengthen it, cleanse it and be divinely driven. Returning to the Queen is like play mapolo and bad loser. Bad heavy baggage Vore against Oz, NZ and anyone else (Forum and UN too now) who cut friends with Fiji

  15. Free Fiji permalink*
    May 1, 2009 4:23 AM

    @ IslandBoy,

    we can pass on the message Tui Savu fully agrees with you and good on your Gone Marama Bale na Roko Tui Dreketi. Tui Savu’s article only applies to those worthless chiefs or those whom have betrayed their positions of trust and brought disgrace to their vanua and people, like those whom he mentions by name in his article. You will note, Tui Savu respects Roko Tui Bau and because your Gone Marama Bale the Roko Tui Dreketi is not mentioned amongst those unworthy chiefs, you can be assured, he never had her in mind at all.

  16. Celua Niumataiwalu permalink
    May 1, 2009 5:36 AM

    @ Tailevu Kid

    au vakila ni vaka mo wedevi Marak Manning saraga tikoga vakaukauwa.

    Vacava mo drau sixty nine la me fair hahahahaha

    I have read you comment on someone who has taken the initiative to form movement and all I can see is you don’t know whether your coming or going.

    If you have nothing constructive to contribute just piss off and go and play with you hanging loose rather than digress our discussion on this forum

  17. Raivalita Tamudulele permalink
    May 1, 2009 6:14 AM

    Island Boy… things aren’t always what they seem. It’s chiefs like Ro Teimumu and Ratu Naiqama who mucked this whole thing up in the first place. All installed or confirmed chiefs should be barred from standing in the General Elections in the future. It’s as obvious as daylight that if chiefs enter the political arena, they will split the loyalties of their people. My point is, Ro Teimumu and her likes shouldn’t be so sanctimonious and expect to absolve themselves of this crappy situation we’re in right now. We shouldn’t be so quick to praise these people because all they’re doing is seeing what political mileage they can gain out of it. I’m not a supporter of Frank, by the way! Just telling it like I see it.

  18. May 1, 2009 6:38 AM

    Dearest CELUA,

    “OI LEI MOSI VEI AU’

    I kindly suggest that next time you read a comment, put ur reading classes on, because it seems u have a problem understading and interpreting words.
    Anyway, if the pain persist, please for crying out loud, see a pschaitrist.
    “E MOSI FOLORI”

  19. May 1, 2009 6:56 AM

    Dearest CELUA,

    “OI LEI MOSI VEI AU’

    I kindly suggest that next time you read a comment, put ur reading glasses on, because it seems u have a problem understading and interpreting words.
    Anyway, if the pain persist, please for crying out loud, see a psychiartrist.

    “E MOSI FULORI”

  20. Mark Manning permalink
    May 1, 2009 7:00 AM

    Taileve kid
    thanks for the suggestion , have previously sent our Elected Prime Minister one of those suggestions , as for your other views , , we’ve already had a royal commission into deaths in custody some 8 years ago .
    The problems with the aborigines from stem from them losing their land and culture , so I tend to agree with you on the land issues , as for the interventions re:- children , i haven’t seen the results yet .
    But i think I’ve heard your views in the past .
    If you read my recent posts , you’ll see that as recently as this morning , I said Fijians need to sort their problems , I’m just one of many who support the call for Free speech , which your exercising here and I respect that and Democracy.
    I’m flattered that you think anyone is even interested in my views though , let alone actually may be acting on them .
    I’m sensing that the President is your chief , no ?

  21. Celua Niumataiwalu permalink
    May 1, 2009 7:11 AM

    vacava mo vukica mada na spelling kemudou mai Tailevu dou spell taka na glasses me classes kei na understanding me understading

    da wilika nomu volavola da kila saraga ni drau veiwekani kei Voceke

    lai vuli talemada ka lai teve vaka oti talega and leave MH alone

  22. EnufDictatorship permalink
    May 1, 2009 7:26 AM

    Re-evaluating the chiefly system where only WORTHY chiefly clans are recognised seems to be the right route to take ONCE WE HAVE A DEMoCRATIC government. Bcos with Voreqe’s lack of foresight he seems to be mucking up all the changes that we know is what is needed for our country but we are trying to implement everything at once that the PEOPLE’S needs are being overlooked.

    Here we have an e.g. from Lomaiviti. I would like to know which chiefs voted YES to this farter charter with the promise of developments for the next five years being relayed to them by none other than Capt. Raturala!!! WTF!!! wasn’t this guy a talk-show host or something on Fijian radio….now a Capt.?????

    Vote buying playing on the vulneability of the people has now become a part of the illegals regime to win minds and ehart of our people.

    Some ACTIVE resistance is really needed. But of course, with the mucked by traditional system and loser chiefs we have, there are not enough REAL leaders around to lead. Thus, we are LOST!!!!

    Elders accept charter

    Friday, May 01, 2009

    THE Lomaiviti Provincial Council and Bose Turaga have agreed to accept the People’s Charter for Change at their one-day meeting yesterday.

    Council chairman Ratu Jolame Lewanavanua said they agreed to accept the charter.

    “We have accepted it and the chiefs too have agreed on the issue,” he said.

    Yesterday, a State team led by Captain Sitiveni Raturala explained to the charter to members and what they had in store for the province. He said they would now have a committee to look into the projects which were earmarked for the next five years.

    Council adviser Ratu Etueni Caucau said the charter would help ease the problem of transportation being faced by the villagers.

  23. Hosannah permalink
    May 1, 2009 7:43 AM

    Case in point for Mr Savu : Tui Vuda. Raised all his life in Taveuni and suddenly installed as Tui Vuda no wonder he is callously flaunting his chiefly title….to be a slur on the vanua o Vuda [deliberately or not]. And the Nailatikau….a grandchild of a Bau vasulevu, no more and no less…claims the Ratu–ship and the Vunivalu title too …….. not raised properly I say!!! plenty cross-wires, very diluted and are major blemishes and blotches to the chiefly system. I agree, we have to cull the chiefly system off such……… with God as our helper who can be against us!!!

  24. Hosannah permalink
    May 1, 2009 7:57 AM

    Another 1 bites the DUST!!!! LPC Following closely in the heels of the Kadavu PC!!! Accept or no development. Anyway isn’t that Lewanavanua fella related to Vore anyways……….?

    and what is Etueni advising now?

    Oilei, this kinda pathetic shortsightedness makes me want to shout ‘down with the chiefly system’ Lord hold me back!!!

  25. Celua Niumataiwalu permalink
    May 1, 2009 8:11 AM

    Problem with these useless chiefs is that they cannot differentiate between shit and the real deal. The development sold to them by raturada may sound nice but can someone tell them chiefs that there is no more government money and this is all pie in the sky kinda stuff.

    The government is so broke now we at government buildings are being forced to use both sides of the toilet paper!!!

  26. May 1, 2009 8:18 AM

    Bloggers,

    I can now disclose I have been blogging under the blogger name of ‘Na Vosa’. I was President of the SWM until a couple of hours ago, when I was unilaterally terminated by Epi (Chief Strategst).

    It is a sad day indeed because the same thing happened with the former solivakasama blog, just as we were nearing the 1m hit mark, a dormant Administrator changed the password and blocked us all out because of certain actions conducted by a certain Administrator.

    It has happened again today. I have put in a lot of hard yards and this petty move will not deter me because I will move onto bigger projects and hopefully it should get off the ground in a very short time.

    I say to Epi and his new Management Board, keep up the quality of the articles posted on the site which made it unique in the world. That is going to be your biggest challenge.

    I wish you all the best and to all the bloggers, let’s remain focused on the common objective, which is to topple the illegal regime and restore a democratic government in Fiji.

    You all have a safe and restful weekend.

    Ni sa tei moce mada.

    Tui Savu.

  27. Fiji Democracy Now permalink
    May 1, 2009 8:34 AM

    In his article above, Tui Savu raises issues that lie at the centre of Fiji culture, issues that are today more relevant than ever to our future.

    But the grim reality is that the question of how we effectively address those issues remains moot for as long as we remain in a legal and economic limbo under the current dictatorship.

    That’s why we at FDN agree with Keep the Faith (second comment from the top). Any reforms must be preceded by elections so that the changes that are made reflect the will of the majority.

    Only under a full, constitutional parliamentary democracy will we be able to be able to move ahead and work together towards achieving true and equitable reform.

  28. May 1, 2009 8:57 AM

    @ CE “VE” LUA (alas Celua)

    Wow, ur language reflects someone who must have had a very sad & rough upbringing, my sympathy to u. I think u need serious help darling”, maybe come to Tailevu, as the saying goes, TAILEVU NO LEQA’.

    PUSH TAILEVU.

  29. Admin2 permalink
    May 1, 2009 9:31 AM

    Testing!

  30. Ropate permalink
    May 1, 2009 9:42 AM

    Provincial Councils are not allowed under the Fijian Affairs Act to be political. Discussion and acceptance of the Charter are political acts and therefore ilegal.

  31. Admin2 permalink
    May 1, 2009 9:48 AM

    I was also terminated as a SWM Board Member by Epi, Free Fiji, Chief Strategist and owner of this blog and website.

    I would have made these comments under my real name which is Rosalind Pratt but Epi has blocked me out.

    Epi sacked me and then had the cheek to ask me to re-apply.

    I told him I would have re-applied on the condition he never mentioned on the blog that because he financed the blog and website he was the sole owner.

    I would have thought money wasn’t the issue here and that the blog and website belonged to the people for people and without the people there wouldn’t be any blog or website.

    I feel very uncomfortable having someone that has sole control of something like this during these difficult times when we are all being washed by the enemy.

    I will carry on with my fight regardless.

    Thank you Epi and all the best for your endeavours to topple the regime.

  32. EnufDictatorship permalink
    May 1, 2009 9:51 AM

    @ Na Vosa aka Tui Savu…ok is this true???

    Am very sad indeed if your termination is true as you said above.

    The fight should go on for democracy!

  33. Admin2 permalink
    May 1, 2009 9:52 AM

    Meant to say;

    “I feel very uncomfortable having someone that has sole control of something like this during these difficult times when we are all being watched by the enemy.”

  34. EnufDictatorship permalink
    May 1, 2009 9:56 AM

    OMGoodness..what is happening people…this is NOT ON!

  35. Admin2 permalink
    May 1, 2009 10:14 AM

    EnufDictatorship

    It is not the end of the world – think of it as a minor hiccup.

    You have many choices! I will sign petitions, await Sydney Fiji Democracy Movement to set themselves etc!

    Don’t let this get you down – remember one has to go over some very rough patches to arrive at one’s destination.

    Nothing comes easy!

  36. Keep The Faith permalink
    May 1, 2009 11:46 AM

    O FFS’s you guys….Tui, Epi, Rosalind etc and whoever’s running the show.

    How the heck can we aspire to get Freedom back for our country if we can’t even get on the same page.

    PLEASE don’t let the unfortunate but very common kaiviti “tall poppy” syndrome get in the way of personalities and biases.

    The fate of this country lies in your hands. All of you.

    Keep it together FGS’s!!

  37. Karl Williams permalink
    May 1, 2009 12:45 PM

    Now I see why Bainimarama cannot be toppled.

    Epi you are no different to Frank Bainimarama in blocking these people from having their say!

    Probably have me blocked as well because I have disagreed with your actions.

    Don’t bother because I won’t be showing up again.

  38. soro permalink
    May 1, 2009 1:07 PM

    Epi whats wrong with you – jeeez .

    Don’t you get it that it is the bigger picture that is of the most importance here ?

    Get with the program. Jeez.

  39. May 1, 2009 1:29 PM

    Hey MARK MANNING,

    I’ve just read today’s paper {The Australian, 01/05/09), title, ‘Dictator’s plea to Rudd: Let’s Talk to help restore Fijian democracy” a concession from the man himself (Bainimarama) to Pm Rudd. Well, there you go, common sense has prevail at last. Dude, I just come up with an excellent idea, maybe if Pm Rudd do take up the offer, I strongly suggest that you apply for the position as his Australian representative to Fiji. I mean, you’ve got all the materials you need, the political articles and all those propagandist items on youtube. You can have a private audience with Bainimarama, put ur views across, and show him all those youtube clips. Maybe that could change Bainimaramas position. As the saying goes, “u never know if u never never go”. After all, IT’S BETTER TO HAVE THE CAMEL INSIDE THE TENT PISSING OUT, THEN THE ONE OUTSIDE THE TENT PISSING IN’ . Just a thought mate.

  40. Malekata Ravisa permalink
    May 1, 2009 2:33 PM

    The last dozen inputs here; totally off the subject matter, reflects why Voreqe does not consider blog sites like this as a serious challenge to his illegal and pathetic regime. If freedom of speech means trying to be the top dog (or pig), then those who run this blog (who is it now, this joker called Epi?), is just like Voreqe. Leweni and co. do not need to shut off any anti IG site. as those who profess to be anti coup and establish blogs like this, are doing it to ourselves. So frigging pathetic! Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The only consistent guy has been MM (with apologies to my Nite Tailevu Kid).

  41. Mark Manning permalink
    May 1, 2009 5:06 PM

    there is a lot of pressure on this site at the moment and it’s a pity indeed , at this crucial moment in time , to read all that is going on , especially as this is the 2nd. time .
    Let’s hope things settled down tomorrow .
    I’m sure epi isn’t concerned about the money side of things but was just trying to say that he gives his time freely and doesn’t think he’s appreciated or his efforts .
    I get exhausted just trying to contribute , imagine trying to run the site !
    Let’s all take a deep breath , go and have a cup of tea , then come back and regroup , otherwise Frank wins ! Again !

  42. May 1, 2009 9:33 PM

    SA QAI CA TALE…….

  43. meme permalink
    May 2, 2009 12:09 AM

    How come there’s no news about Frank’s trip out of the country? What kind of a Prime Minister is this? Where’s the transparency? No accountability what so ever for the people of Fiji! This man really thinks that he owns Fiji it’s people ….this is what you call CORRUPTION!!

  44. meme permalink
    May 2, 2009 12:28 AM

    From what I heard you cannot be a military commander unless you are a chief! I wonder why,does anyone know! This needs to be re-evaluated!!

  45. Hosannah permalink
    May 2, 2009 12:30 AM

    Oh.. that explains why RFN is almost 48 hours behind in its postings!!! Bibls…can we get on with the business ?
    Epi can sort himself; and

    the rest of us just blog on for Fiji’s deliverance!!! Precisely how Satan works….when some good and GODLY project is in full steam that diminishing voice cuts in…

    Come on folks, Victory is our Song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fiji is out of Forum, and now UN PKO hereon, what is next for our God-given land??

  46. meme permalink
    May 2, 2009 12:44 AM

    The next step is to remove JEZEBEL Frank..!!!

  47. Hosannah permalink
    May 2, 2009 11:54 AM

    @meme
    eu, out of sight out of mind tu mada yani o Jezebel Vore. Let him catch some good ole swine medicine of his own making………Now let us warfare Fiji in his absence and crawl out of its woodworks all manner of maggots and satanic serpents and eeks there. For all we care, he can stay wherever he has gone to courtesy of Graham Davis……….

  48. meme permalink
    May 2, 2009 12:44 PM

    @ Hosannah….halleluhah!! Go for it …we with you!!

  49. meme permalink
    May 3, 2009 1:14 AM

    @ MM…Crazzzyyyyy…dear you can’t scrap the Chiefly system entirely…This is

    part of our Value system! It is our tradition and culture! This is part of who

    we are as a people group .We are a people that grow up in a society that

    were taught to respect each other including our chiefs and elders.Every

    people group have their culture which cannot be taken away from them. eg

    in India they live by the Cast system .It is the modern lifestyle and attitudes

    of certain desparate people that are destroying this! It is not the Chiefly title

    that is the problem in Fiji, it is the arrogant individuals attitude like Frank

    and others who have abused their role in our society!!

  50. May 4, 2009 8:24 AM

    Kivei Solivakasama,

    Kevaka ko gone ni Viti dina ona mareqeta na veika baleta na ka maroroi kei Viti. Edua gona kina na i tuvutuva vaka vanua. Na veika ko vkaraitaka toka mai ni sa yaga me soli vei ira na vuli vinaka na i tutu vaka vanua – e na sega ni rawa baleta na tikina oqo era taqomaki tu ena ‘Indidenous Rights ena United Nation Charter’

    Eda dui kilai ga na dui katuba ka da curu mai kina. Edua na kenai vosavosa ‘vaka Vola Tabu : “Solia vei Sisa na ka es nei Sisa vua na Kalou na ka esa nona na kalou” Qarauna de na kania iko na nomu via siova yani nai tutu esega kina na nomu baigani.

    Eda sa vuli vinaka kece mai ka vaka kina oria na luvei ni Turga era dui tu. Kevaka sara mada ga era sega ni vaka kori era na rawa ga ni cicivaka na nodra dui vanua ni ara sa susu mai ena kena Sucu Dina. Kakua ni vaka na kaidia em da sa veivoli taka na veika vaka mareqeti baleti keda se o keimami na Taukei e Viti. De dua o sa tikitikina toka ka vaka toka kina qori na nomu rai.

  51. Ropate permalink
    May 4, 2009 10:11 AM

    Hahaha . . . sa yawa o iko, Bin Ladin. o Ni dina talega. Sa rauta mo ni irogo e vuravura!!

  52. Bati permalink
    May 4, 2009 2:27 PM

    Adi
    Au dua vata kei kemuni au kerea moni vosota na vosa ca lelevu a tukuna o Bin Laden

  53. Raseru permalink
    September 2, 2009 3:19 AM

    Tui Savu,

    To abolish chiefly system,or to vote a substitute like a president of a soccer club will only accelerates inconvenience to every fijian in fiji.

    Their is prize to pay for removing chiefly title.

    It is god gifted and I wont allow any commoner to be my chief

    How about if you waste you energy in stopping gay marrige,aids etc

    Dont ever fuckaround with chiefly title.

  54. February 18, 2010 11:37 PM

    I was studying something else about this on another blog. Interesting. Your perspective on it is novel. – Organized crime in America takes in over forty billion dollars a year and spends very little on office supplies. – Woody Allen Born 1935

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