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April 8, 2009

Come out clean Fiji Times, you put out a story about how the illegal Interim Government has decided to put out restrictive conditions of participation to parties and NGO vocal against them.

This story only appeared for about a minute on fijitimes.online and then was quickly deleted.

Is it true that the Military is pannicking and thinking of declaring martial law tomorrow if the Court rules against them?

Tell us the truth please!!!

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28 Comments leave one →
  1. Mark Manning permalink
    April 8, 2009 4:44 AM

    how can an illegal entity , assuming the court will rule in favour of mr qarase’s government , declare martial law and if they do , what will the reaction of fijians at street level be ?

  2. Ropate permalink
    April 8, 2009 4:50 AM

    Well, bloggers. Frank spoke in Fijian to Bula FM this morning and his words are being relayed as a voice piece hourly in all Bula FM news item. He has made it clear that no one — repeat, no one — will force elections on the IG. I take that to mean the Supreme Court as well. He said elections will be held at “our own pace” as he describes it. So the scenario for tomorrow is clear. If the Court rules in favour of Qarase, he will close the country down and carry on blithely as if nothing has happened. He will not accept the Supreme Court’s ruling.

  3. Mark Manning permalink
    April 8, 2009 5:05 AM

    if that happens as you describe , then it really narrows down the choices for the usually placid Fijians who , to date , have maintained their patience .

  4. Ropate permalink
    April 8, 2009 5:14 AM

    I doubt there will be any reaction from ordinary Fijians the vast majority of whom are unempowered. They’ll most likely carry on there normal daily lives, going to the plantation, having a basin of kava in the evening. While deep down they may not like the actions of Frank the topic of discussion around the kava bowl tonight is likely to be on the split in the Fiji Rugby Union than on the Court decision, because whenever the topic turns to politics in normal Fijian settings the young people keep quiet and only the elders are expected to speak. That’s just how it is.

  5. orion permalink
    April 8, 2009 5:15 AM

    Why should he declare martial law? He is in control of the law enforcement arm of the state (police & prisons) and its military apparatus. He is in control of the civil service and the judiciary. He is in complete control. Whether or not the CA will rule against their case will not matter much to them. They will carry on regardless. They do not need martial law as this country is already in it in one form or another. He will not abrogate the consitution either, as it has been used effectively against his oppositions as something to keep them down and that has worked. He is using it well to his advantage. So why take it away. So my take, they will still do business as usual.The court case will not matter if the results go against them.

  6. Keep The Faith permalink
    April 8, 2009 6:07 AM

    Well the people of this country will be noticing tax hikes in their pay packets ie less dosh for food, bills, grog etc

    So what’ll it be people of Fiji? Feeding your family or feeding Frank’s??

  7. Celua Niumataiwalu permalink
    April 8, 2009 6:18 AM

    That story is back now and maybe certain sensitive bits or probably the list of conditions was taken out.

    Bainimarama attaches conditions to parties meeting
    Wednesday, April 08, 2009

    Update: 3:24PM FOUR political parties have confirmed receiving conditional invitations to the political parties meeting tomorrow.

    The invitations, signed by interim Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama, state their attendance is conditional to parties agreeing to four terms including reform of the communal system of voting and not dealing with “partisan media”.

    SDL, UPP, NFP and the Nationalist Vanua Takolavo Party confirmed receiving the letter late yesterday afternoon.

    They were told to respond “positively” by 4pm today, with the meeting due to start at the police academy at 9am tomorrow.

  8. April 8, 2009 7:26 AM

    If Frank and his cronies declare martial when the courts decision is against him.
    The only way to go is for everybody in the country from children to adults and senior citizens to go on a peaceful protest.
    Its simple nobody should go to work just stay home and thats the best solution to keeping the peace.
    And lets see what he can do.
    It is your democratic right to protest when you see that the country is being forced into a dictatorship.
    The time is now and there is no other way.
    Lets do it.

  9. Ropate permalink
    April 8, 2009 8:03 AM

    Hector to have a nation wide protest you will need people to organise and coordinate it. Who will do it? Not the churches. They have put out a statement calling on the public to accept whatever ruling made by the Courts. Orion has made a good point. Frank controls well almost all the power sources within the country; he has it virutally in a lock down mode so it will be hard for anyone or group to organise a protest without the goons coming down hard on him or her

  10. Mark Manning permalink
    April 8, 2009 8:06 AM

    He who does nothing , makes no mistakes .
    But doing nothing , is a mistake in itself .

  11. April 8, 2009 8:17 AM

    At this point I don’t see Vore declaring martial law because he and Chodo know that if he does, any changes he makes (to our Constitution, native land, etc) will easily be declared invalid under a civilian government.

    However, if the split between Vore and the Military Council is as substantial as rumours suggest, martial law is a possibility WITHOUT Vore, if you know what I mean.

    We have a much better chance of getting to free and fair elections quickly under a Vore-free military rule than we do with the dumbarse pig in power. Or do we?

    God bless Fiji

  12. hopefiji permalink
    April 8, 2009 8:31 AM

    Frank and his cronies will continue as business as usual. No court ruling will change the fact that unless the Fijian’s themselves boot frankie and his regime out, he is there stay. Hopefully the Methodist have come to the conclusion and revelation by the Holy Spirit that GOD HELPS THOES THAT HELP THEMSELVES and time for praying is over and the day of reckoning is at hand. They need to get off their butts and on to the streets and declaim what the thieves have stolen!. The international community cannot do much of Fiji ciitizens themselves cant help themselves!! “The regime you get is the one you deserve if …if you cant do anything to get rid of them..no amount of whinging is going to change that. I suspect the FCA will not rule in favour of Qarase..it will be refered to the Supreme court to buy time for the political forum negotiations, that is if they look towards the implication of thier ruling rather than the strict application of the law

  13. Keep The Faith permalink
    April 8, 2009 9:21 AM

    Hellow!?!?!

    Why the pessimism folks?

    In case we are missing something Bainimarama may have the guns, the courts and the keys to the coffers but he sure as HELL does not command our respect or acquiescence to govern us and that is the cornerstone of “leading the country”. The international community knows that full well — why Clinton has just made that loud & clear: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/clinton-tells-fiji-to-go-to-the-polls-20090408-a03w.html

    Please rid yourselves of pessimism. Many folks in this country depend on you to keep up the fight against this illegal lot of bastards.

  14. Peace Pipe permalink
    April 8, 2009 10:54 AM

    We all know this feral pig too well that we could predict what his next move will be. But he is so thick and stubborn that he keep pushing us to the limit. I feel we already been past that too but we are not able or willing to stand up and be counted for fear of victimisation. I feel the court judges are going to rule against the pres given the way they have been cross examining the defence and that bleached blonde bitch who was torn to shred shamefully by the appeals judges. But looking ahead in the event of this happening I don’t see the pig giving in. The ball then is in our court to seek ways and means of stressing it to the bunch of wanking pretenders that we have had enough of them and its time to move on for the sake of the nation. No more bullcrap for pete’s sake, we are fed up and full of it up to the hilt.

  15. hopefiji permalink
    April 8, 2009 11:14 AM

    @ Keep the Faith…..its not pessimism, but REALITY!!. Yes we want the FCA to rule against the buggers because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO, according to the rule of law and our consititution, and the weight of public opinion here and abroad. However, being right does not mean the right thing will be done. The fact that Baini has already publicaly stated today that NO one will force elections in lieu of the FCA ruling tomorrow and the political forum says it all. Hey on the bright side..if they do rule against him and say that agree to Qarase’s terms, we can will have Chodo back in power as PM… cant see the Pressie appointing Baini as it will not be in accordance to the constitution.,.,..Chodio has shown that he cant be trusted,,,,so what we may end up having the doctrine of necessity used again by Baini against Chodo , which may be what they are planning anyway…so back to the orginal status quo…the bastards return again !!

  16. April 8, 2009 9:27 PM

    The President could consider Ratu Jone for caretaker PM. Quite frankly though, the president seems so far gone and imprisoned by Voreqe it is unlikely that he has a mind of his own anymore. Hopefully the court will rule the president illegal as well (he resigned and was illegally reappointed). The last resort is the GCC and they are probably the best hope of all. Let them choose an interim PM and get on with their constitutional responsibiity of sacking he president and appointing a new one.

  17. Keep The Faith permalink
    April 8, 2009 10:11 PM

    @ hopefiji…yes that is true. It is indeed reality.

    But I don’t doubt for a minute that Qarase et al are going through the legal motions domestically and aiming for the ICC — the PIF’s stand on the issue will matter greatly.

  18. ex Fiji tourist permalink
    April 9, 2009 12:32 AM

    What a farce!

    from Fijivillage

    “””
    Print this page
    Email this page The third Political Dialogue Forum is in limbo after some parties have been excluded from the meet after a directive from the interim Prime Minister.

    Former Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase has confirmed to Fijivillage that they received a phone call from the PM’s office last night informing them that they would not be allowed to attend the meeting.

    NFP General Secretary Pramod Rae said they also received a phone call last night from the interim Prime Minister informing them not to attend the meet as well.

    However, Rae said the will go to the meeting venue in Nasese this morning adding they can stop him there at the venue.

    UPP’s Mick Beddoes could not be reached.

    This is after the SDL, NFP and UPP had responded to the interim Prime Minister’s letter where he had pre-conditions set for the meet like a commitment to electoral reform, for them not to undermine national efforts to meet economic challenges from the global economic crisis, for them not to work with partisan media outlets and foreign countries to undermine national initiatives and efforts and for them to commit to expediting the political dialogue process with honesty and candour.

  19. Ropate permalink
    April 9, 2009 1:18 AM

    Let it be known that the President is incapable of making decisions. Only two people make decisions for him — his wife, Adi kavu seniloli & Frank Bainimarama. The lady is the real power behind the throne. The old man is well past retirement age for goodness sake, and coupled with his Parkinsons Disease which everybody knows is physically and mentally degenerative, the man is just a walking shell. So don’t expect any rational decisions to emerge from this Pres’s office — today or ever!!

  20. Mark Manning permalink
    April 9, 2009 2:20 AM

    I just saw a good movie called innocent voices and thought , will Fiji come to this ?

  21. Mark Manning permalink
    April 9, 2009 2:23 AM

    I think it’s time for Frank to get a soft loan from the Chinese to build a 5 star prison complex for him and Chaudhry to share a cell .
    They will have to tie a yellow ribbon around their polo until it drops off and then make themselves available for sex to the other inmates !
    As well as this , they can practise their oral sex on the other inmates , as this is what Frank has taught some of his soldiers to engage in if you recall the recent case before the courts .

  22. Navosavakadua permalink
    April 9, 2009 3:24 AM

    Bainimarama’s motives for his arrogant invitations with conditions are easy to see. The whole exercise is a charade aimed solely at causing confusion and delay. He has never had any intention of holding elections for the very obvious reason that he and anyone associated with him would stand no chance of winning.

    He pins everything on electoral reform because he thinks it’s the best way to cause confusion and disagreement.

    He accuses the NFP of opposing reform when for decades they called for Common Roll but what he really wants is their opposition to electoral reform. If the NFP stopped opposing electoral reform, he knows can rely on others in the Indian community to sound alarm bells about protecting minority rights.

    Likewise, if the SDL turned around and supported electoral reform, he’s confident that other Fijian leaders would start to oppose change.

    All he wants is disagreement and delay. It’s a pity the major parties don’t call his bluff by saying let’s have an election with the new electoral system and let the new parliament rule on whether the new electoral system is better.

  23. meme permalink
    April 9, 2009 3:26 AM

    @ mark…that sounds too nasty mark!!

  24. Fiji Democracy Now permalink
    April 9, 2009 3:27 AM

    Well, bloggers, you cannot say we didn’t see it coming!

    Deliberately and without any regard to his earlier undertakings, our dictator has all but derailed the political dialogue forum.

    By excluding key players by presenting them with his last-minute ultimatum, our Dictator has once again placed a major obstacle on the path to arliamentary elections.

    Indeed, he has erected a major signpost on that path and its underlying message is clear: Fiji is not returning to democracy for as long as he has the means to hold onto power.

    It will be interesting to see the reaction of the Commonwealth and the United Nations.

    The UN has already decided against deploying Fijian troops on any new peacekeeping missions and, in the case of the Commonwealth, it is clear that body will have no alternative but to suspend the membership of Fiji.

    In turn, the British armed forces will not recruit Fijian nationals if Fiji is not officially recognized as a Commonwealth country.

    Not only has Bainimarama prostituted his troops to subjugate their fellow countrymen, but he has ended any opportunity those troops might ever have had of being anything other than the hated instruments of a tin-pot dictatorship.

    Voreqe Bainimarama has made a sick joke of the RFMF’s declared commitment to Na Dina, na Dodonu kei na Savasava!

  25. orion permalink
    April 9, 2009 3:57 AM

    Don’t you think the President should step in to solve this impasse? gates said he stepped in dec. 2006 to avoid some national crisis in the making. Is’nt this also a crisis in the making?, ie Bainimarama excluding the major parties from the forum? Since the president is good @ doing that and removing people from office, why cant he do the same to Bainimarama and his political forum, now.Remove them now (obstacles to moving the country forward). Step in and let the major parties be included – in order to avoid a national crisis or shouldnt he remove bainimarama from office now and hand over power to Chaudhary or Bogileka in the interim so we can move the cpountry forward? after his decision making in dec. 2006, dont you think this sort of thing should be a piece of cake to him? I would think so.Let us see if he can do this.

  26. orion permalink
    April 9, 2009 4:04 AM

    or, in other words why is bainimarama determining the conditions for entry and dialogue in a forum commissioned by the president?

  27. Isalei permalink
    April 9, 2009 4:13 AM

    The four parties should have boycotted in the first place once conditions were placed, and opt out as the process is so flawed. Why allow themselves to be kicked out by a paranoid and sick dicktatter? The political dialogue forum is not a genuine path, so just boycott.

    As for the people protesting, Abrahm Lincoln had once said that “No (hu)man is good enough to govern another (hu)man without that other’s consent.” The longer the people allow this madman to govern them the more he thinks they are consenting through their silence. I still think the church should make the call to mobilise the people.

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