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More on Samoan PM’s view of the pig, Vore!!! Fa’afetai says SWM and we demand the same from other elected Pacific Island Leaders!!!

February 23, 2009

Well bloggers, the heat is really turning up on the pig, Vore. Other Leaders are expected to join in the hunt. Just when he thought he was on a roll and there was no obstacle in front of him, an elected leaderof the Pacific have spoken out and it is going to increase and there is nothing Vore can do to stop him. Watch our website because our President is going to be making some announcements soon. Once again fa’afetai Samoa!!! You rock PM Sailele!!!

In an extraordinary interview, Samoan Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele through Tupuola Terry Tavita has launched a blunt attack on Fiji’s Voreqe Bainimarama.

It has the air of an “official” statement – Tuilaepa was talking to Savali, the Samoan Government newspaper, published by the Prime Minister’s Department.

This is the interview

 Savali, February, 2009

By Tupuola Terry Tavita

Prime Minister Tuilaepa Sailele Malielegaoi is unsure of what state of mind Fiji dictator Frank Bainimarama was in when he made comments about Samoa, Samoa’s relationship with New Zealand and the Pacific Islands Forum earlier this week.

“I’m curious if he was sober or perhaps there was a full moon out that night,” Tuilaepa speculates.

Asked what he thinks of Bainimarama’s claims that Samoa, Australia and New Zealand are ganging up on Fiji at the Pacific Islands Forum, Tuilaepa giggled.

 “No, no, no, I think the good commander (Bainimarama) was misquoted by the media. What he may actually have meant was that the maturity of Samoa’s leadership is on par with that of New Zealand and Australia. That’s obviously what he meant.” 

Nods head. “Therefore, given that seniority, he should be keen absorb my tit-for-tat.”

But the situation in Fiji, the Prime Minister admits, is no laughing matter. Bainimarama this week railed against the Forum and the international community that no country will force Fiji to do what it doesn’t want.

“No-one’s going to force us what to do here,” says Bainimarama. “We’ve already decided what’s going to happen.” Well no one is forcing Fiji to do anything, says Prime Minister Tuilaepa.

“The Forum is simply asking what his (Bainimarama’s) plans for Fiji’s road back to democracy are, in accordance with the principles of democratic governance the Forum was established upon.

“May I also remind the Fiji Interim Prime Minister that Fiji is a founding member of the Pacific Islands Forum? One of the Forum’s founding fathers was none other than Fiji’s Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara, a distinguished and respected leader whose principles of democratic government the Forum stood for in its formative years.”

The Forum, the Prime Minister adds, continues to be misled by untruths told by Bainimarama and his representatives.

“During the Forum meeting in Nukualofa in 2007, Bainimarama told the Forum that general elections in Fiji will be held in March, 2009. Again during the recent Leaders Summit in Port Moresby, his hand-picked Attorney General, during his presentation to the leaders provided a roadmap for elections, which led the Forum to set out in its communiqué the 1st of May timetable and elections in Fiji by the end of the year. That is the basis for the communiqué that was issued following the meeting. It was based on the Fiji Attorney General’s presentation to the Forum. Now Bainimarama and his Attorney General are singing a different tune. Not only did Bainimarama lie to the Forum but also sent his Attorney General to lie to the Forum leaders. How is the Forum to believe these two proven liars?

And what is the motive for this trail of lies?

“I strongly believe that Bainimarama has no intention of relinquishing power and returning Fiji to democratic government. On the eve of the summit in Port Moresby, the leaders were told that Bainimarama made a statement to his troops that he needs five years in government. After the meeting, the leaders were told by sources in Fiji, that Bainimarama has this time told his army generals in a meeting that he’ll need up to ten years of military rule in Fiji.

“Therefore that’s a clear indication that Bainimarama has no intention whatsoever of holding general elections and returning his country to democratic rule.”

The continuing travel bans imposed by New Zealand and Australia on those associated with the military regime, Bainimarama claims, “are counter productive to a return to democracy”.

Not so, says Prime Minister Tuilaepa.

“Only Bainimarama and his guns control the road to democracy in Fiji.

Only Bainimarama controls Fiji’s return to democratic rule, not the travel bans.”

Tuilaepa believes that Mr Bainimarama has a problem comprehending the issues involved.

“Therefore I’ll speak to him frankly from one Pacific Islander to another Pacific Islander in a very clear and direct language that I’m sure he will understand.”

In a report by Radio Australia this week, Bainimarama claims that the Forum decision after Port Moresby is owed to an alliance of Australia, New Zealand and Samoa.

“I must also tell you that unfortunately for the forum, maybe only three countries endorsed what came out and decided that outcome, and that was Australia, New Zealand and Samoa,” Bainimarama is quoted.

“And Samoa for good reason – Samoa and New Zealand are one and the same.”

Prime Minister Tuilaepa smiles.

“Samoa is an independent country. If Bainimarama has something to say, say it to me. He has an awful lot to say for someone who surrounds himself with armed soldiers.”

It has been reported by Islands Businessmagazine (February 2009 issue) that in the few months Mr Bainimarama appointed himself as Fiji’s Finance Minister, he has quietly claimed for himself “back pay” of FJ$200,000.

“That’s stealing public money”, says Tuilaepa.

“And yet he has been telling everybody that he needs to clean up Fiji of corruption. I think it’s a classic case of do as I say and not as I do.”

As long as the military is in power, the people of Fiji, the Prime Minister says, will be denied crucial assistance from donor countries, international institutions and lending agencies.

“The last time I looked,” Prime Minister Tuilaepa said, ” neither the United Nations nor the Commonwealth have a fund to prop up unelected dictators and coup-installed military regimes. Because that’s exactly where any aid money will go in Fiji- to propping up Bainimarama and his cronies military junta, not to the common people who need it the most. It’s a clear indication of how green Bainimarama is. He doesn’t understand these things.”

Since Bainimarama wrestled power from Fiji’s elected government back in December 2006, the Commander has put military personnel in top civilian government positions. This week, former-Navy commander-cum-Police Commissioner Esala Teleni is being accused of institutionalizing religiously

divisive policies in regards to Hindu and Muslim Indian police officers.

“That’s what madmen who appoint themselves to office do. They appoint other madmen to positions of power.”

On reported gagging of the media and widespread suppression of “dissenting voices” against the military regime in Fiji, the Prime Minister grimaces. “It’s a sign of inexperience. A sign of weakness. Every good government needs alternative views to discern its policies. You cannot surround yourself with yes-men and expect a yes-public to everything you do. You can’t forcibly take over the reigns of government and expect people to just shut up. That’s stupid.”

“Those actions are reminiscent of Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler. Well where are they now? And how are they remembered?”

But there is still hope for Bainimarama, the Prime Minister believes.

“He could be remembered as the greatest Prime Minister Fiji ever had if he dismantles the military today and holds fresh elections tomorrow. It’s the greatest gift he could give the people of Fiji.”

And why does Fiji need an army for anyway, the Prime Minister quizzes.

“Perhaps Bainimarama fears a combined canoe attack from Tuvalu and Kiribati, its closest neighbours. That must be it.” 

Nods head and add.

“This is a region known for friendly people and its pristine environment- a paradise on Earth. Having a (interim) Prime Minister dressed up in army beret and full military garb is a bit ridiculous.”

The Prime Minister says that he has been told that Mr Bainimarama is part Samoan. That Mr Bainimarama has a Samoan grandmother.

“I’m tempted to go down to the Lands and Titles courts and look up his family genealogy in Samoa. Then I’ll send for his family matai (chief) in Samoa and tell him to reprimand his long-lost descendent in Fiji. To give him (Bainimarama) severe censure for being cheeky, being ill-disciplined and having no manners.”

And what of Bainimarama’s People’s Charter?

“It’s utter rubbish. He’s trying to replace Fiji’s Constitution with that People’s Claptrap, or whatever it is. The Constitution is the cornerstone of democratic government and democratic governance. You only get democratic government by holding free and fair elections and having citizens elect their leaders in Parliament. That’s how the system of democratic government works.”

Four military coups in 20 years set a very bad precedence for the future of Fiji, the Prime Minister believes.

“It makes people think that a military takeover is the most natural transition of power in Fiji. Since Rabuka’s coup, military coups have become very tempting, very enticing for those in (military) uniform. I’m sure there’s a general in the Fiji army today just waiting on the wings, bidding his time to grab power and establish his own military government.”

And the Samoa Prime Minister’s message to the people of Fiji?

“It’s time for Fijians to wake up. Wake up now. Stand up and reclaim your government. It is your God-given right.”

Copyright: Michael Field

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24 Comments leave one →
  1. Peace Pipe permalink
    February 23, 2009 12:31 PM

    We await the president’s announcement with much anticipation. It is hoped that something concrete is starting to materialise to rout these wankers out.

  2. ex Fiji tourist permalink
    February 23, 2009 1:30 PM

    I would like to take a few moments of your time to analyze the wonderful statements by the Samoan PM.

    Let’s look at his classic sayings; they are brilliant.

    ““I’m curious if he was sober or perhaps there was a full moon out that night,”

    “”Not only did Bainimarama lie to the Forum but also sent his Attorney General to lie to the Forum leaders. How is the Forum to believe these two proven liars?”

    “Therefore that’s a clear indication that Bainimarama has no intention whatsoever of holding general elections and returning his country to democratic rule.”

    “”Bainimarama appointed himself as Fiji’s Finance Minister, he has quietly claimed for himself “back pay” of FJ$200,000.
    That’s stealing public money”, says Tuilaepa.
    And yet he has been telling everybody that he needs to clean up Fiji of corruption. I think it’s a classic case of do as I say and not as I do.”

    “”“The last time I looked, neither the United Nations nor the Commonwealth have a fund to prop up unelected dictators and coup-installed military regimes.””

    “”It’s a clear indication of how green Bainimarama is. He doesn’t understand these things.”””

    “””“That’s what madmen who appoint themselves to office do. They appoint other madmen to positions of power.”””

    “”“It’s a sign of inexperience. A sign of weakness. Every good government needs alternative views to discern its policies. You cannot surround yourself with yes-men and expect a yes-public to everything you do. You can’t forcibly take over the reigns of government and expect people to just shut up. That’s stupid.”

    “”“Perhaps Bainimarama fears a combined canoe attack from Tuvalu and Kiribati, its closest neighbours. That must be it.”

    “” Having a (interim) Prime Minister dressed up in army beret and full military garb is a bit ridiculous.”

    “” Bainimarama’s People’s Charter? It’s utter rubbish. He’s trying to replace Fiji’s Constitution with that People’s Claptrap, or whatever it is.”

    “””“It’s time for Fijians to wake up. Wake up now. Stand up and reclaim your government. It is your God-given right.”

    I would like to suggest that they all be written on the blackboard of every classroom in Fiji so that children can see the stupidity of the fool who has failed to be a leader for Fiji.

    Maybe each school could have a competition to see which statement from the Samoan PM best sums up the nut case.

  3. ex Fiji tourist permalink
    February 23, 2009 1:33 PM

    I would like to vote on the staement that , to me, is a clear winner.

    The envelope please.

    The winner is ; —–

    “”“Perhaps Bainimarama fears a combined canoe attack from Tuvalu and Kiribati, its closest neighbours. That must be it.”

  4. February 23, 2009 2:22 PM

    At this moment in time, I have more trust in forces from Australia, NZ or USA invading Fiji, overpowering the military and putting us back on the road to elections than I do in this bunch of idiots ever getting us there.

    But solutions have to come from within. You can’t impose them from outside or you’ll end up with a structure far worse than the one you started with.

    Vore is finding that out for himself (albeit v-e-r-y slowly because he is so hopelessly stupid).

    Vore, your job is to get us to elections. That’s it. Don’t fuss about all the bull**it because its way above your head. Let We The People decide our fate. Or else you’re just tempting Fate, which will later come and bite you on your sorry a**e, full moon or not.
    God bless Fiji

  5. February 23, 2009 2:23 PM

    BTW – Vinaka vaka levu, Mr Field! Excellent piece.
    God bless Fiji

  6. February 23, 2009 2:50 PM

    Sorry, don’t mean to be like MM leaving too many postings, but did you notice that the US Govt is moving 8,000 troops from Japan to Guam? So much closer to us. I wonder if any are being moved to American Samoa.
    Do you think Vore has noticed?
    God bless Fiji

  7. Mark Manning permalink
    February 23, 2009 3:29 PM

    ? fijigirl ?

  8. EnufDictatorship permalink
    February 23, 2009 3:30 PM

    I’M SORRy guys but aren’t we seeing something in the Samoan PM’s last challenge to us:

    WE NEED TO STAND-UP FOR OUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS!!!!

    I have been one harping on about nonviolent civil protests here forever and I think it’s about time our civil leaders have to start to do something CONCRETE!!!!

  9. February 23, 2009 10:43 PM

    MM, mate – forgive me for going off-topic briefly but on occasion you are known to leave a flurry of postings. We all obviously value your contributions. It’s just that sometimes they come thick and fast. Love your stuff! Can’t wait to meet you properly one day, after the elections.
    God bless Fiji

  10. Keep The Faith permalink
    February 23, 2009 11:40 PM

    FYI folks Victor Lal also has a great update on his blog:
    http://victorlal.blogspot.com/2009/02/hallelujah-help-those-poor-indo-fijian.html

  11. Keep The Faith permalink
    February 23, 2009 11:42 PM

    Oh and Fa’afetai Lava Tuilaepa!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Mark Manning permalink
    February 24, 2009 12:01 AM

    Fijigirl , I forgive you !
    Now for my next flurry !
    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=115112
    I can see similarities with the Aborigines in Australia and it’s as much to do with being isolated with no work , substance abuse , low self esteem , lack of Policing and bullying as anything else . It can happen in any community and is a human waste .

  13. Mark Manning permalink
    February 24, 2009 12:08 AM

    Last time I looked , Fiji was still Fiji , not India or Chindia , although it’s getting close , and the National language was still Fijian , not Chindu !
    http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=115119
    As for the Governor General of Australia not speaking while the Prime Minister is speaking , that’s simply untrue and a blatant lie ! While Kevin Rudd spoke in Victoria to the bush fire victims , the governor General was in Far North queensland speaking to the flood victims !
    It’s more likely your President is not speaking for one of two reasons , either he’s being held against his will or he’s brain dead and unable to function , no disrespect intended .

  14. ex Fiji tourist permalink
    February 24, 2009 12:29 AM

    Isn’t it great to read about this.

    “”” The decision by a prominent school to do away with cadet training as a waste of time may well illustrate the disconnect that has come to exist between the people and their military overlords since December 2006. Fiji’s military, once such a source of national pride, has become increasingly a cause for suspicion and fear. Many in Fiji no longer regard military training as character forming but as a distraction from study. Or just another burden the regime has imposed on us.

  15. February 24, 2009 1:12 AM

    Bloggers, I anticipate more Pacific Leaders to throw down the gunlet to Vore and he skimpering away like a coward he turly is. I agree that ‘invasion’ must come from within, but it has always been there all the time, but was subdued because of the gun.

    Theerfore, if there was an ‘invasion’ I am very confident the majority of the people in Fiji will gladly embrace them and fight with them against the illegal junta.

  16. Save the Sheep permalink
    February 24, 2009 1:15 AM

    The Samoan PM is indeed a Statesman, something that Vore and his Military Council cronies and IG Ass wipers will never be.

    But where in the hell are our leaders? The ones who should be standing up to this rubbish and rallying the people from within?

    The one thing that the Military have done, is clearly illustrates just how rotten our leadership is.

    Yes Mr Chaudhry, that includes you, idiot….

  17. February 24, 2009 1:29 AM

    Frank is just creating all this comotion to try and justify to the people that these outside countries are hassaling him.
    In fact their are only trying to drive some sense of responsibility, accountability and transpirancy into him because these are the bases the the forum operates under when you are a member.
    If you don’t met these requirements then you will face the consequences, thus the dead line of May 1st.
    Our neighbours cannot just sit back and allow this illegal government ruin the lives of the people.
    They are responsible to the people who are part of the forum.
    Frank if you cannot face up to your earlier words to the forum leaders then pack up and leave because surely the people are totally fed up of you and your cronies.

  18. Peace Pipe permalink
    February 24, 2009 8:38 AM

    SWM could you please express our sincere thanks to the pm of Samoa for speaking up for us the people of Fiji. He opened himself up for vitriolic from the pig for our sake. Thank you Hon Mr Tuilaepa Sailele.

  19. meme permalink
    February 24, 2009 12:58 PM

    Yes…we do need a statesman from the South Pacifc Region to defend us as a nation from such bullies! Thanks to you Hon Mr Tuilapea Sailele, don’t stop, please continue to speak out against this regime for the sake of the Fijian people!

  20. Mark Manning permalink
    February 24, 2009 2:30 PM

    Nothing to fear but fear itself !

  21. Mark Manning permalink
    February 24, 2009 2:32 PM

  22. February 25, 2009 10:50 AM

    @ Save the Sheep – The leaders We The People can really get behind are obviously PM Laisenia Qarase, and VP Ratu Joni Madraiwiwi. Attar Singh and Kenneth Zinck are doing a good job of trying to stand up and be counted, or at least to irritate the illegal regime. But really the guys who should be leading this charge are PM LQ and VP RJM.

    They are the two who were truly ousted by this regime and they are the two who should be at the forefront of our revolt. The rest of us can protest, yes, as did the women activists who had their human rights violated at QEB, and the innocents who were killed, and even our lovely Laisa Vulakoro who was manhandled by the bastards when she tried to reason with them. They even cut her hair, the ar**wipes.

    So yes, the rest of us can protest and do our bit. But what this revolution (for that is what it now will be) really needs is a Leader. A good, old fashioned, well-spoken, rabble-rousing, unifying, inspiring and ass-kicking leader to speak to us, to harness our outrage, reawaken our dreams and lead us to free and fair elections.

    God bless Fiji

  23. EnufDictatorship permalink
    February 25, 2009 12:41 PM

    With you there FijiGirl…these two distinguished elected leaders need to be our own DR. KING or GANDHI or MANDELA…if they have the GUTS to lead. I know they have the support BUT it’s the NEXT STEP that needs to be taken.

    President Obama didn’t get to the White House by fluke…it was the road paved by the likes of Dr. King and the civil NONVIOLENT protesters way back in the 1950s and onwards.

    So, what’s stopping our elected leaders? We say Bainimarama is a COWARD for hiding behind his bullet-proof bociguards…what are our elected leaders then if they just keep talking in the name of PEACE!?

    No ONE has to DIE now! Although they have in the past…(RIP our brothers) BUT it can be done without bloodshed. If anyone recalls history…police presence was HEAVY during the Lincoln March BUT they were not needed cos people of all walks of life on that day…WALKED PEACEFULLY!!!!!

    If it can be done there, why not with us..with out BULA SMILES!!!!!!????

    God bless Fiji indeed!

  24. EnufDictatorship permalink
    February 25, 2009 12:41 PM

    sorry meant to say…

    with OUR BULA SMILES!!!???

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